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Localism Implementing the Red Tory Agenda
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| Localism Implementing the Red Tory Agenda | Posted by |
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I must admit I didn’t spend much time reading “Open Source Planning” when it was first published, I couldn’t see for example how in practical terms plan-making could start “at ‘ground level’ in neighbourhoods with every single resident of the neighbourhood approached to take part” or how “a presumption that the ‘modules’ of the local plan provided by each neighbourhood will be incorporated in the final plan unless there are strong grounds for modifying them” would actually be realised. I therefore expected that these ideas would not be followed through. It is now however clear that for as long as this coalition government lasts we are clearly going to see even more radical, though not necessarily new ideas put into practice. If the ground level up modular approach is to be achieved then the changes to planning have only just begun. The end state is not yet known, except that the smaller the state the better. |
M Eccles |
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Thanks for this thoughtful post. I followed it (I think) right up to the point where you say :- |
Richard Crawley |
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Richard, in response to your question I am tempted to say "chaos". I dont think that a "when" question is necessarily beyond the grasp of a community, I have known places where the locally expressed view was that a period of consolidation was needed before further development should take place. However following a discussion with local GO officers this morning I does not seem likely that we will be handing over these kind of "calls" to the community, but wil still be relying on statistical monitoring. They could be wrong though and if so I wondered if anyone had any idea what that would look like as i am not sure I do. |
M Eccles |
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One of the problems with a localism agenda is that it assumes that the beneficiary of the Planning system is its existing residents. This is often not the case. One of the purposes of Town and Country Planning is to provide for future social and economic needs by releasing land before it is needed. For example with regard to housing the objective is usually to accommodate newly forming households, or households moving into the area from somewhere else or households that have not yet formed. We are not normally planning for the existing adequately housed or adequately employed. They are not part of the problem we are trying to solve and yet they are the ones that will bear the impact of construction and changes to their environment. Since most people do not welcome change in situations where they are already reasonably happy, they are bound to be resistant to a Planning system that aims to develop land. Since they are likely to be classified as the ‘locals’ under the new narrower definition of ‘community’, it is their voice that is likely to influence Planning policy. Unless there is a popular local regeneration agenda or some other specific problem that might be resolved by building new houses, the locals are bound to oppose proactive planning policies, aren’t they? Nor can I see existing residents changing their attitude by the thought that building new housing will make their Council slightly wealthier ? |
Peter Stockton |
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I agree with Peter's assessment especially his last point, but supposing we see an extension of the approach now proposed for the NHS, where local neighbourhoods, rather than the the local council receives the "incentive" and we the planners work in a direct partnership alongside local people and are given budgets to do so. The proposed restructuring of the NHS is entirely consistent with Blond's ideas for solving "broken Britain" through "associative relationships". Despite the few examples he gives (such as the John Lewis Partnership) there does not seem to be any examples of sufficient scale and currerncy to suggest that this way of working would address the issues raised by Peter such as "households moving into the area from somewhere else or households that have not yet formed". I think that used to be called strategic planning. |
M Eccles |
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Having read all this professional input, I am left somewhat disappointed at the lack of any suggestion that elected members have a major role to play in the new localism agenda. All contributors seem to have siezed on the negatives of seeking community input when it comes to anything to do with planning. Yes, there will indeed be an element of NIMBY and anti-everything response as always and you will never overcome that. However, the early involvement of elected members in a managed and focussed way can deflect much of the negative public response that occurs. Councils seem to continually avoid member involvement until the whole thing becomes a public outcry or a planning application, thereby missing numerous opportunites to test the water and gain valuable input. I'm not advocating a policy of getting members to go native far from it. However, even if members are initially negative (without being pre-determined if that is an issue), this can give you the basis for exploring alternative proposals and better ways of doing things. Waiting until it becomes a valid application or worst still gets to the DC committee is always the worst way to manage community engagement. |
Roger Gambba-Jones |
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I think the post by the last contributer is a good one as members are there to represent the 'community' in its widest form and have a mandate to do so. What worries me in all this is that it assumes a cohesive community view, which from my experience is almost never achieved. You often have the vocal minority who perceive they are adversely affected by a proposal, and a far larger silent majority who either don't care one way or the other, or who could (either themselves or sons/daughters etc) potentially benefit from development (eg from affordable housing, employment development creating more jobs) but who do not have the understanding to see these longer term wider benefits for themselves or the wider community or who are not fully engaged by the consultative process. |
Ian Gill |
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The contributions above have identified what many of us have known for many years, that appropriate consultations with local communities are quite complex activities and require more than just meetings with local residents and "community organisers". |
Flick Harris |
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Dear All |
Deirdre Wells |
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It would appear that M Eccles of Liverpool CC will be in a position to advise us all soon - the Government has today announced that Liverpool will be one of the 4 pilots for introducing Open Source Planning, presumably ahead of the legislation. Interesting times ahead. |
Simon Thornley |
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I will do my best to pass on anything we learn. |
M Eccles |
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Dierdre, you make a good point, but we need to take this further. |
Simon Thornley |
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Simon, I don't think any of us see this as a mandate to just say no and then wait to see what bribes are offered to change minds! |
Roger Gambba-Jones |
